If Toyota, Honda, Subaru and other foreign car companies with plants in the US don’t have Unions?
Why do the big three need them?
Union reps have tried to get the japanese auto workers here in the US to join the Union but the workers themselves don’t want to join. The workers don’t make as much but have similar benefits and are happy employees.
Have the Unions ran their course? Are they nothing more than a drain on the company? Should the big three get rid of the UAW for good?
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18 Responses to “If Toyota, Honda, Subaru and other foreign car companies with plants in the US don’t have Unions?”
Exactly. We need to get rid of the greedy unions once and for all. And who makes better cars? that’s right, the foreign auto makers.
They dont, the unions need the big 3, thats why they wont budge
you do realize that the workers who work for foreign auto industry are complaining about several issues that the union workers in the us auto industry have not?
They don;t because they pay the workers $42 per hour as opposed to the big 3 who pay their workers $72 per hour. Who’s the greedy ones, the big three, or the UAW?
They need to get rid of them. Unions are ruining their companies and forcing employers to move the jobs overseas.
AND they are better built and last longer!!!!!!
How can they do that? Once a union is in, it’s mighty hard to get rid of it.
They don’t need them
Toyota USA pays about $64/hr in compensation
GM pays about $70
Those other numbers people spit out are
Japan: Average Salary per hour SANS other Compensation
US: Average wage per hour INCLUDING other comps.
They leave out the healthcare, 401K and stuff like that for the Japanese companies – look it up it’s intentionally skewed.
I don’t like unions for 1 reason – there are no incentive-based raises. This is the only real problem with them – otherwise they are simply like a tax.
It’s not making that much difference right now
The bigger question is, when Japanese companies have access to Japanese banks that are in much better shape than US banks and the US automakers CANNOT access those same banks, what can we do about it?
EDIT: Anyone that says US cars aren’t built as well as imports is spewing decade-old data. If you havent owned or driven one in the past 5 years you are being a media lemming
Consider this: if the UAW had NOT struck and gone through all the tough times and bargaining for those benefits, safety measures, clean plants, paid holidays and other perks; would those other auto employees have any of them?
While some of the UAW demands are excessive, the unions are still needed to protect the benefits and health care packages and retirement packages of the retirees.
Unions are only half the problem with the domestic auto industry. The management of all three are horrible. Stuck in the past with worn out ideas and a management level bureaucracy that would make Washington DC proud. Maybe Toyota, Honda and Nissan should but GM, Ford and Chrysler. IT may happen if they declare Bankruptcy.
EDIT: Compared by reliability, value, resale, maintenance and safety: Imports DO beat domestics.
Yes, their time has come, not because company owners treat non-union workers well (they generally do not), but because the unions are corrupt.
They go on sympathy strikes, block deliveries, threaten scab workers, and have tried to intimidate employees to bend to their will.
It is a sad commentary on workers rights when unions use employee dues to contribute to a candidates election. This should be illegal. That money is supposed to be used to help employees while on strike or in need of assistance, not to buy political support.
Let the unions fall, and rebuild an alliance without mafia rule, or intimidation.
Notice how the secret ballot is under attack?
What will be next, shooting out car windows or apartment windows?
Happened to my family in the 70′s.
wages in those plants are pegged to what the UAW workers makes.
I heard a stat..but forgive me if the details are not exactly right but the premise is important. General Motors sold 3.7 million cars and lost billions of dollars. Toyota sold 3.7 million cars and made money.
The Auto Industry in the South, the home of Toyota, Honda and Subaru is doing quite well and the workers are living well too.
Of course these companies do not pay laid off workers in closed plants full salary because the union contract mandates it.
you don,t want the unions to go under.if they do you are going to be working for $5.00 an hour.it is not the unions fault for what is happening. the Rep. have been trying to get rid of the unions.for years.i,m a union retire.That is like getting rid of ss.the company matches the worker dollor for dollar.the us gov. does not put one red penny in ss. they take out.If they would pay ss.back we would have plenty of money.
The UAW will succeed in killing themselves and the US auto industry as we know it today. The union has created a class of workers which could be compared to a fat sow pig, they consume a lot, do as little as possible and expect to be taken care of even after their limited usefulness has ended. It’s a shame that the greed and ignorance of the union has allowed or better yet, enabled this kind of thing to happen.
Unions have run their course.
Unions are good in the beginning when they share skills keep standards high. Then they get complacent, flex their muscles and demand more more from their employers while delivering less.
The car union reps on live now complaining, specifically about Toyota firning 2 employees for what the US unions call some trumped up charge. Get ready for more evil Jap car makers.
It’s the 70′s all over again.
Unions do provide valuable services, however, they also stifle growth…hmmmm toss-up
The uaw needs to be extinct
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